S54 Z3 Coupe - No Chance

RickyBobby

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Currently the highest bidder with 6 days to go but I reckon I've more chance of winning the lottery 🤣
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Pond

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What do you think the reserve is?
 

RickyBobby

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What do you think the reserve is?
Got to be £40k - only 168 right hand drive cars made it to the UK.

That said I can't believe how neglected this one looks - but I guess with these cars that's better than one that's been over fettled / modified.
 

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AI is all American and US prices are much higher than ours.

IMO there are only a few reasons why people put cars into auctions....

1. It is a super rare car that is difficult to value by anyone.
2. They can't sell it through mainstream for sale ads, so give it a punt.
3. They are expecting big money by several people fighting over it and set the reserve really high.
4. They need to sell quickly usually for financial reasons. This one doesn't seem to be common anymore IME.

The days of finding a bargain at auction are long gone!
 
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Pond

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A friend pointed out this little gem . . . Sounds a lot mind . . . Shoot, what do I know . . .
5,000 miles. That one is a 'collector's piece', so priced accordingly. There are still hedge fund companies that could buy that and sit on it (maybe not at that money though).

These types of 'modern classics' seem to be dropping in value lately from what I've seen, as they got to silly money. But there is no harm in trying!
Personally wouldn't give £5 for a Z3M clown shoe. They are in my top 10 of ugliest cars ever made and I need something pretty to look at for my money.
 

ktnez99

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The engine bay looks neglected…not had a look at the other pics as there almost 200 but why neglect the engine bay especially when you are trying to sell your car?!?
 

Jam03

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Interesting. The service history will put a lot of people off. Speedo changed, second hand gearbox😬. Fascinated too see what someone is prepared to pay for it, and what they do with it.
 

RickyBobby

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id love a clown shoe, even if its not a m, but yet again even the 2.8 coupe is rare...
Did they even make a non-M version of the coupe in RHD - I've only ever seen one for sale and that had been converted from LHD?
 

petecossie

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Did they even make a non-M version of the coupe in RHD - I've only ever seen one for sale and that had been converted from LHD?
No there were only LHD non M Coupes, although there is one 2.8 non M Coupe (Imola Red I think) up here in NE that the owner has been in contact with me which was professionally converted to RHD over in Germany. The owner is coming to one of the BMWCCNE monthly meetings when he has the car sorted as he has a few jobs to do on it.
The preferred nickname in UK amongst Coupe owners is Bread Van (nickname first used on a one off racing 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO), the Clown Shoe is the American nickname. Amusing pic below.
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No there were only LHD non M Coupes, although there is one 2.8 non M Coupe (Imola Red I think) up here in NE that the owner has been in contact with me which was professionally converted to RHD over in Germany. The owner is coming to one of the BMWCCNE monthly meetings when he has the car sorted as he has a few jobs to do on it.
The preferred nickname in UK amongst Coupe owners is Bread Van (nickname first used on a one off racing 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO), the Clown Shoe is the American nickname. Amusing pic below.
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I don't think anyone would spend 13M Euros to repair a clown shoe :) .

I was there when it was crashed :eek: .
 

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There's a few RHD non M coupes kicking about, at least 3 I know of, I've helped build them :D
 

petecossie

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5,000 miles. That one is a 'collector's piece', so priced accordingly. There are still hedge fund companies that could buy that and sit on it (maybe not at that money though).

These types of 'modern classics' seem to be dropping in value lately from what I've seen, as they got to silly money. But there is no harm in trying!
Personally wouldn't give £5 for a Z3M clown shoe. They are in my top 10 of ugliest cars ever made and I need something pretty to look at for my money.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, what is ugly to you is a great looking car to others, me included. The rear 3/4 view is particulaily pleasing wiith the twin exhausts, deep dish rear wheels and bulging rear arches. It is quite well known that these cars did not come from the BMW design studio but were conceived by a bunch of engineers in a workshop. It eventually got the go head for production as long as the BMW parts bin was used to keep costs down, the reason some people think it is a bit of a mongrel!!

I often get asked at filling stations, what model BMW it is and is it a recent model, as with personal reg it doesn't give a clue to its age ( mine's 25 years old). I've even had a bloke (passenger) a few years back leaning out a passing car taking photo/video as their car passed me on a dual carriage way, so he must have been impressed.
One of the reasons prices are a little depressed is because there are so many coming up for sale, a lot from collections/long term storage as between approx 45 to 55% are SORN'd most of the time and owners are off loading them to cash in on the cars desirability.
As with all cars some do get neglected and hence have poor appearance when presented for sale. You just have to take these things into account when buying, you can always walk away and wait for a better one to come along. When I bought my first one back in 2005 I looked at 5 cars (from London to Edinburgh and in between) so you have to travel to get what you want.
 

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, what is ugly to you is a great looking car to others, me included.
Yeah I get that. The old sayings of 'each to their own' and 'if everybody liked the same things the world would be a very boring place' come to mind.

However, this 'beholder' just sees a weird kind of 'estate' car that doesn't seem to know what it is supposed to be. And then with an 'S' engine..... makes it even weirder. Hats off to BMW for having the balls to produce it.; not so sure about the people that actually paid good money to buy it, though. ;)
Different they definitely are. Pretty they definitely ain't.

If they were to produce something similar now it would undoubtedly be called a 'shooting brake' which makes it sound a lot more 'windswept and interesting'.
 
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Currently the highest bidder with 6 days to go but I reckon I've more chance of winning the lottery 🤣View attachment 352763
Check out the advisories on the DVLA site- not sure if these have been rectified but covering brake pipes in grease suggests poor maintenance and poor practise,but if the price is right!!
 
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